Sunday, March 11, 2012

on subscribing.

My cousin, Carolyn, who once was lost, but now is found, said recently in one of her comments, "Here's what I think about the yearning. We need language to talk about the new god that we are seeking. The old language doesn't work for us any more."  

I agree.

And, I don't think the insufficiency in language is specific to Christianity, but spans our search as a whole.  In his new book, Religion for Atheists, philosopher and atheist Alain de Botton acknowledges the holes in atheism and the failure of secular society to address two central needs of humanity:

"...firstly, the need to live together in communities in harmony, despite our deeply rooted selfish and violent impulses. And secondly, the need to cope with terrifying degrees of pain which arise from our vulnerability to professional failure, to troubled relationships, to the death of loved ones and to our decay and demise...The error of modern atheism has been to overlook how many aspects of the faiths remain relevant even after their central tenets have been dismissed.

I like that.

And, not just that, but his willingness to look beyond a definitive atheistic box....his refusal to just blindly subscribe and discredit the other side. I'm here; you're there. Such blind subscription is easy. We don't have to think as much; just follow your box.  And, I think it's easy to just let the box define you more than who you really are.

In this TED talk, de Botton differentiates between secular society and religion, adding that secularism is all about [higher] education and information - the lecture.  Religion, on the other hand, is more about sermonizing. "A sermon wants to change your life, and a lecture wants to give you a bit of information. And I think we need to get back to that sermon tradition.”

Touche.

He goes, on, elaborating about other values of religion including rituals, the importance of good oratory, and the need to join together and collaborate in order to change the world. I think what I liked so much about this had less to do with the fact that he is an atheist, and more that he is open minded enough to risk ridicule from peers and actually look to the other side for truth. He is "an independent", acknowledging not just our human need for each other, but the discrepancies in his own belief system - the latter of which, in my opinion, gives him credibility.  So, lest you think I'm proselytizing for atheism, I'm not.  I'm just saying all this because this is the kind of stuff that makes me think and helps me on my quest.  I also say this because whether you are a democrat or a republican, whether you are a Christian or atheist, there is great benefit in looking at all sides, gleaning bits of truth where we can. Because "no knowledge has a monopoly on knowledge." Jonah Leher

I could go on.  But, it's nice outside and if I remember correctly, it is the Sabbath. 

Here's the video...



And thanks to Maria Popova at Brain Pickings for stirring my mind.

7 comments:

Kulio said...

I know how you feel -- I love talking with people who are completely unthreatened by an opposing view. I especially like to hear Christians - somebody like Donald Miller is a good example - talk about how somebody made him think. Because I'm a Christian, and I hear enough Christian people who don't think at all. When I hear him talk about thinking, it reminds me that Christianity is not about being afraid. It's about peace and love :-) I've been reading this book of poetry by Hafiz, a Sufist teacher, and I know that could sound alarming to some. But he was poet, a dreamer, and a God-lover. Why can't I share his art? I think what you're talking about is being completely confident in what you believe. I don't feel threatened or nervous about reading this poetry, because I see how much I have in common with another seeker of beauty, another inhabitant of this earth where we're all scrabbling to figure out...I think, in essence, how to love God, how to be what he made us to be for real (not for fake :-) That yearning is in us all, and THAT'S what warms me, makes me feel connected to you, to Hafiz, to other dreamers. Atheism doesn't scare me, because I know what I believe, and I know God is bigger than the little boxes we create to keep him in or out of. His love busts them all apart, I think he stomps them. I don't feel superior to an atheist, I feel curious - what sorts of things are we both looking for? What can I learn from him as a fellow seeker, and what part of God will he see in me when we talk? I believe that God is chasing you. I think he is chasing us all. I would like to, instead of cowering in a God-ordained corner, run around and a-muck with all the people he is chasing in a kind of joyous game of tag where, when God tags you and you're supposed to freeze, you just squeal and keep running, wrecking the game, getting glowered on by some but mostly high-fiving the other drunken runners and hopefully collapsing in a heap at the end.

MissingMolly said...

This is great. I've done a lot of thinking throughout my life about god and religion and spirituality and humanism--all that meaty stuff, which I find much more interesting than pop culture. (I'm not a hipster, though. I don't even really understand what a hipster IS. Guess I'm too old.)

There is definitely one thing that I appreciate about church communities, and that is the *community* part. I'm actually going to be writing more about this soon on my blog (for the 3 people or so out there who read it :), but when I was younger and searching I found most religious groups too restrictive, yet I also felt a lack of something in my life. I wanted to connect with other people, and I needed a day that was set aside specifically for slowing down and acknowledging the sacred (like I had when I was little growing up Catholic). I also appreciate good oratory.

So when I discovered Unitarianism, I felt like I struck gold. There are Unitarian Christians, Unitarian Jews, Unitarian Buddhists, Unitarian atheists, Unitarian humanists, and on and on. Everyone is welcome and encouraged to find his or her own path. Now I'm older and still searching, still asking questions, still wondering, and that community has continued to welcome us with open minds and open hearts.

I'm not trying to "sell" Unitarian Universalism here. Just wanted to share my truth because your post inspired me to. I've only recently started following your blog and find your musings thought-provoking. I love your photos, too, by the way.

Marian Hazel said...

We listened to Alain the other night when we couldn't sleep. We've got his latest book on order from Amazon. I like his attitude, he's so even, fair. Can't wait to read the whole thing. We have all his other books, love his writing. I think that's why I live blogging and instagram so much, I'm seeking a like-minded community and have found it. Even if some of my community live in far flung places like Michigan, they still feel close.

Marian Hazel said...

Sorry that should be like blogging not live! Lol

Kristen Maddux said...

I am enjoying these TED speeches I’m seeing links to around. Each speaker is so well articulated and the ideas thought-provoking. The Brene Brown one on vulnerability (from last year maybe?) has stuck with me like few speeches I’ve heard….ever. I think about it often. I’ve try to live my life vulnerable and open, and it encouraged me that I am on the right track! Also really enjoyed the video on “The Power of the Introvert.” SO GOOD.
I couldn’t agree with Kulio more about this particular talk you mention here. You kinda took the words out of my mouth, Kulio! I enjoy listening to/reading/discussing differing points of view. I feel unthreatened by that….because I believe God is unthreatened by it too. ;) It’s good for all of us to be open to really hearing others, with no judgment (I wish more would do that for me when I tell them I’m a Christian. Ha!)
Didn’t get to say congrats on your speech, Carin! Was SOOO happy for you when I saw that! Well done, girl. Wish I’d been in the audience to hear it.

~KC: said...

I agree, as well.

I don't like labels or blind subscriptions and don't believe in anything that limits my freedom to be, to seek, to change my mind, to review my perspectives, to grow.

When it comes to "I'm here; you're there" I like to stay in the middle ground. I am learning to live in that space. :)))

And, yes...there is a longing...for deeper~stronger connections...for wholeness...for meaning...

xOx

"Each person is born with an unencumbered spot, free of expectation and regret, free of ambition and embarrassment, free of fear and worry; an umbilical spot of grace where we were each first touched by God. It is this spot of grace that issues peace. Psychologists call this spot the Psyche, Theologians call it the Soul, Jung calls it the Seat of the Unconscious, Hindu masters call it Atman, Buddhists call it Dharma, Rilke calls it Inwardness, Sufis call it Qalb, and Jesus calls it the Center of our Love.
To know this spot of Inwardness is to know who we are, not by surface markers of identity, not by where we work or what we wear or how we like to be addressed, but by feeling our place in relation to the Infinite and by inhabiting it. This is a hard lifelong task, for the nature of becoming is a constant filming over of where we begin, while the nature of being is a constant erosion of what is not essential. Each of us lives in the midst of this ongoing tension, growing tarnished or covered over, only to be worn back to that incorruptible spot of grace at our core.
When the film is worn through, we have moments of enlightenment, moments of wholeness, moments of Satori as the Zen sages term it, moments of clear living when inner meets outer, moments of full integrity of being, moments of complete Oneness."
~Mark Nepo

Anonymous said...

i have been thinking
about this a lot

i was brought up Unitarian
and was taught
to question everything
do research with
what we question

i have a tough time
with all or nothing
with religion
isn't religion supposed
to connect us
not judge each

i have seen and been told
very hypocritical
behaviors by many
who label themselves
and put their believes
in a box

and i have to admit
that living in dhaka
and seeing such suffering
and inhuman conditions
that if were one of the unfortunate ones
to claim dhaka as my home
not only do most of these people
struggle for the basics daily
food and water
basic survival
they have no time
to have the luxurly
to mule over what there
believes r
and when exposed
to expats
and how we r pampered
in their country
I WOULD question
why the hell me?

i was brought up
and did the same
with my kids
be open to everything
and labels can harm

must we carry a little card
that states r religion
skin and hair color
marital status
sexual beliefs,etc
and give them to new people
to let them know
whether to even bother
to get to know u
and jugde u

that what neatly
defining and boxing
of r believes does
i don't really care what
others believe
their actions
r more accurate

why r so many wars
about 1 religion
opposing another
a child like fight
on who's god/etc
is better

too much time wasted
every minute reliving
the bad past
and how to change it
just wastes a minute of happiness

xoxo rosa